Whether you support her or not, you had to see this coming. It would be more prudent for any control freak have the only people able to review your actions answer to you. If things look badly for your cause, replace the people not providing the answer you want. Make them dependant on your OK for their livelihood, and you control all situations.

Alaska still owes us 1000 pages of the report and an impeachment hearing.

Monegan owes the Palin's a civil suit.

The Palins owe us all an apology for being despicable abusers of power who lie about it while smiling and claiming to be "mavericks".

McCain owes his supporters a respectable VP.

Yep... throw all those things in and we can call it even.

Or, we could all just conclude that if McCain became president and croaked, that these idiots would be our "First Family". If that doesn't scare you... you need your head examined.

Vote - Obama/Biden 2008 - Keep the "First Dude" away from our White House!

I'll never vote for "that one"

Brilliant. Just think of the shenanigans that Sarah and Toad could get into in DC. Thanks, but no thanks. I want someone smarter than a tree stump leading this country. Republicans for Obama/Biden!

Sarah Palin-- THE ALASKA DISASTA!!

Palin wants the VP to have more power. What kind of mischief would she (and hubby) be up to? Scary thought. Vote Obama/Biden.

So lets investigate the investigator a little. He is a Democrat. He also said at the start of his little investigation that there would be a surprise in Oct. Does that tell you he had his marching orders already. His findings is little more than an opinion paper as no one was put under oath. Evidence is lacking except from a disgruntled employee that could not take direction from a woman. This sounds a little like the Obama opponent that dropped out because he was sued to open up his divorce papers. It sounds an awful lot like Obama's first opponent that was forced out due to another lawsuit on filing procedure.
If you can't win on your own. Drag dirt and sue. Boy that is real change or is it just Chicago politics.

Oh by the way the maximum if the Senate decides to go forward with more investigation is a $5000 fine.

10 Republicans and 4 Democrats, richsteele, decided this.

Repeat 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats. Keep repeating and maybe, just maybe, one day the lightbulb above your head will flip on and you'll have your aha moment.

"His findings is little more than an opinion paper as no one was put under oath."

-LOL... Those testifying refused to do so under oath. Why might that be?

Also... read Canaan's post... it's 100% true.

Are you saying that the severity of the fine decides as to whether its legal or not? That is to say, ethics are not laws so you need not be ethical? Maybe this is why all of the "libs", as you call them, need to dictate every ones life through legislation.

canaan.... don't confuse rich with facts. God you'll destory him .

"I'll never vote for "that one"...

- Yes, jack... we are painfully aware of that. Nobody is trying to get those who are already "locked-in" to change their vote. Such an endeavor would not bear fruit.

It's the undecided and independent voters, not the Republican base, that we're after.

this is a one sided media circus to say the least. you should look at who you are supporting before you start throwing out statments of having heads examined. it's funny ho9w we are not haring of obama's affiliation with terrorits and raciests, yet we hear about everything even if palin or mccain farts too loud. while i dont rally care of mccain or palin, i sure will not support obama and all the media lies.

mccain/palin 08

What do you mean we're not hearing? That's all we've been hearing about.

We know everything there is to know about Obama, but we know little about Sarah Palin.

Why won't she talk to the media? Too scared? Afraid they will not be nice to her? Well then she is in the wrong profession.

We need courage in our leaders which she sorely lacks.

Next question - or scandal to watch:

Did Palin's $522,000 house get built for free by the same builders she awarded a contract to build the sports arena?

Todd Palin says he got help from contractor "buddies." Palin decides no need for building permits anymore so no paper trail. Seems corruption is rampant in Alaska.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/1

and you find that in obama?? palin is running for VP not commander and chief, i dont believe mccain has died yet. but you still support someone running for president that clearly is affiliated with terrorists, raciests..where are you comming from, is tha courage?? you clearly do not know everything there is to know about obama, none of us do, but what we do know should be a HUGE red flag.

ACORN,ACORN,ACORN,ACORN............
Appellate judge states that the voter registration doen not have to be verified? Voter fraud?????? Holy dimpled and hanging chad Batman!

Ask the "Obamaites" and they will tell you that this is a non-story or not an issue. I am certain if it involved the Republican candidates it would be a story and an issue. In fact you would have the same old group of left-wing posters raging here on good ol'Redding.com and the witch hunt would be on, if it involved McCain/Palin.

Certainly enough of an issue to be covered extensively by the liberal media news station and enough for a Congressional inquiry to be initiated. But don't worry, the "do nothing" Democraticaly controlled Congress that is currently setting will find there is nothing wrong. After all why should they break their track record of being the worst sitting Congress since the inception of this country. Besides, what would your week be without a little bit of "Pelosi speak"? This too will be the "Bush Administrations" fault, just like the menopausal phase of her life or her sagging facelift.

You must realize that the Democratic Party will say anything and do anything to get their candidate elected. After all this was foretold and promised by "YEEHAW" Howie Dean, Head of the Democratic Party, when they lost in the last election or as their claim that the election was stolen. Obama's promises are the same promises I have heard for years. The Clinton's had eight years to fix health care, social security, and the budget. Yep, they balanced the budget and had a surplus due to the "borrowing" from the Social Security Fund. Ol' Bill( I can't keep my trout in my trousers" Clinton had several chances to kill Bin Laden before he had his ilk kill thousands in New York. Instead he lobs a few cruise missles at a deserted training camp and then claims he did something to protect us. Great Homeland Secrurity.

No real plan.

Same old stuff, just a different Messiah.

Yaawwwwwnnnn...

I'm surprised you're not tired of your own rhetoric.

You lose - America wins!

Obama/Biden '08

Typical Obamaite response....

McCain/Palin 08'

"...i sure will not support obama and all the media lies."

Agreed.

McCain/Palin '08

"it's funny ho9w we are not haring of obama's affiliation with terrorits and raciests"

- Whadda ya talkin' about? That's all we've heard from McCain for the last week! We heard it all before, earlier in the race as well. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans... So the electorate is universally ignoring it... even though the press has given it more than a fair amount of time.

"yet we hear about everything even if palin or mccain farts too loud."

- Not really, we hear all the negative stuff from both sides... pretty much non stop. BTW - the McCain campaign has been far more negative than Obama's has... even after McCain pledged not to go there.

"you should look at who you are supporting"

- I have... In detail. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck ya know.

"i sure will not support obama "

- That's pretty obvious. Nobody would try to change your mind. If you're so far gone that you'll believe the "terrorist" crap... we know you won't ever vote for any Democrat. It's okay... plenty of others will.

"Ask the "Obamaites" and they will tell you that this is a non-story or not an issue."

- Absolutely untrue. The Obama campaign has said that all registrations should be examined. I maintain the same. ACORN made the mistake of employing a bunch of minimum wage people to collect registrations... some of them filed some that were obviously wrong... with names like "Will E. Coyote". I don't think you have to worry about registrants like that actually getting the chance to vote. Any county registrar who does not vet the incoming registrations is derelict in their duties.

Any respect I had for John McCain went away with his pick of Palin. I watched a rally that she was speaking at the other night and it looked more like a KKK rally. They have turned to out right racism and that is scary. Seems the Republican party now will try anything to win. So very sad to see a once proud party sink this low. I have talked with several independents who feel the same way and say they won't vote for McCain because of the racial tone the campaign has taken toward Obama. There are still alot of folks in this country that don't care about a mans education or character but will vote based on the color of his skin. Sad.

"I don't think you have to worry about registrants like that actually getting the chance to vote. Any county registrar who does not vet the incoming registrations is derelict in their duties."

The registar stated that it would be logistically impossible to verify all of the applications before election day. So what do ya do? Throw all the application that out that ACORN gathered as being suspect? A genuine mistake of hiring miniumum wage people by ACORN? ...I think not. Plausible denialability by the Obama campaign...count on it.

IMO, Obama is not to be trusted.

A partisan investigation, that sounds sooo familiar. Hmmm, were Republicans howling about unfair partisanship when Republican Ken Starr who was hand picked by a Republican Congress was spending 60 million dollars on a fishing exhibition investigation of Democrat Bill Clinton's presidency? Whitewater, travelgate, Vince Foster, and at the end of the day they found a bl@w-job.

"and at the end of the day they found a bl@w-job."

Or at least the remnants of one...Should have got Monica a bib.

LOL

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The investigation into Sarah Palin's abuse of power began before she was chosen to run as McCain's VP. The investigation had absolutely nothing to do with the presidential campaign. Had McCain vetter her properly he would have known about the investigation and would not have chosen her.

Bill Ayers is not a "terrorist". He was a radical in the days when violence occurred on a regular basis, often perpetrated against the citizenry by the police. His statue bombing days (statues and empty buildings, no injuries) happened when Obama was 8 years old. By the time they met Ayers was a respected college professor.

Rev. Wright is a minister, he is passionate, he has said some things that I don't agree with. Big deal. Sarah Palin was prayed over by a witch hunter in her church, believes that the end of days are coming, and that dinosaurs coexisted with humans. Her active participation concerns me far more than Obama's listening to sermons.

I too would like to point out this whole investigation started well before she was brought into the National election. It is NOT an attempt to screw a National election. It is Alaska's attempt to fix a State issue. You can read it in all of the archives of major newspapers in Alaska - headlines in July etc.

So it's just a State thing. However if Palin is to run on her experience of being a Governor, then we get to measure and judge that experience ourselves. I don't know what "full access to the governor's office" means in regards to Todd Palin, but that sounds like Todd can use all the phones, copy machine, pens and letterhead that he wants. The fact that he's making phone calls to state employees regarding a personnel issue is mind-boggling. I don't want this guy in the Whitehouse. I'm sure the secret service and all the aids would really enjoy his daily interference in their jobs of helping McCain and Palin run the Nation.

Palin's going to need one heck of a wink to get out of this one.

"They buried this story of absolute crime that ACORN has committed and made this Palen story headlines on all networks and papers."

- Yeah right... The press is supposed to drop everything to pursue a link between Obama and ACORN that has absolutely zero evidence of wrongdoing to back it up? Then they should take that unsubstantiated claim and put it up on the same pedestal as the "Troopergate" report, which has been in the works for a long time, has been thoroughly investigated and approved by a mostly Republican panel of lawmakers?

That's what you want?

Gimme a break. It sounds to me like you want the media to be biased in your favor, not equitable.

BTW... Did anyone else notice that the "Troopergate" report was released in the late afternoon on a Friday? That is the exact time of the week when anyone who wants to minimize the impact of a piece of news releases it.

That way it fizzles out by Monday. It's an old, well known trick.

That's pretty obvious. Nobody would try to change your mind. If you're so far gone that you'll believe the "terrorist" crap... we know you won't ever vote for any Democrat. It's okay... plenty of others will.

you're simply voting for obama simply because he's a democrat??? that's obvious, how and what great detail have you looked at obama? what have you weighed his expertise on? how is he a great american? what has he done for this country? how is he going to bring change to our nation? just because he says he will does not make it so, Ozzy Osborne would bring change to this nation, would you vote for Ozzy if he was a democrat? i'm intrested to know your opinion or views with something to back it up that holds water. why is his offiliation with terroists "crap" do you think this is all made up lies or do you think there is some truth to it? does Obama in his personal life have friends that hate this country? hate white people? do you think Obama is black or brown?

NObama vote McCain 08

At the end of the day, none these diatribes makes a darn bit of difference. This country and this election is now being ruled by fear,uncertainty and loathing for each other. Each party is as guilty as the next. Each candidate has blemishes and past issues. Each voter will have to choose who they trust to get us out of this mess.

It appears by some of those who post on redding.com, that some have no problems insulting their neighbor or other posters for their ideals and to try to justify the pushing of their candiates agenda, no matter who they are in favor of. A very sad commentary on todays society. Remember, after all is said and done, you will still have to live next to your neighbor, regardless of who you vote for.

That is why I read far more than I post....unless you agree with the majority, no matter what the subject on redding.com, count on being attacked,insulted or both.

Sad days my friends....

"you're simply voting for obama simply because he's a democrat?"

- Q: Exactly where did i say that?

A: I didn't.

"how and what great detail have you looked at obama?"

- In great detail.

"what have you weighed his expertise on?"

- Obama is a scholar who graduated at the top of his class. Obama was the editor of the harvard Law Review. Obama later became a professor and also Practiced constitutional law for many years. Obama was elected to the State Legislature in Illinois, a large state with a high population. Obama was a successful community organizer. Obama was elected to the US Senate. Obama has a proven track record of calm thinking and rational decision making. Obama has been fully vetted by both political parties and the press. He is a family man with a solid history of hard work. I agree with him on nearly every issue.

"how is he going to bring change to our nation?"

- It is my hope that he will institute policies in line with his stances on the major issues. I hope he dedicates a massive federal effort geared towards creating jobs in a new green collar economy. It's the best most logical path to energy independence, economic recovery and eventual reduction of our national debt.

"just because he says he will does not make it so"

- I never claimed, or even thought, that just saying something makes it true.

"would you vote for Ozzy if he was a democrat?"

- Hell no.

"why is his offiliation with terroists "crap" "

- What "affiliation"? If you mean Ayers... they were on an educational board at the same time... and lived in the same neighborhood. Another politician arranged a "meet and greet" at Ayers' home for Obama a long time before Obama knew anything about Ayers history. BFD. That is not "Affiliation".

"does Obama in his personal life have friends that hate this country?"

- I don't know or care... but I certainly doubt it. If a friend ever told me they hated my country, we would part ways. I am confident that Obama would do the same.

"Obama is black or brown?"

- I don't care. He could be purple and it would make no difference to me.

Obama-Biden the smarter choice,ha ha what the hell smoking?

wow you know what, you need to seriously do more research on Obama, where he came from, who his friends and family are. while i love debating, you are missing som key facts, or simply just ignoring them. good luck in the election!!!

NObama, vote McCain 08!!!

Obama: Ten-year, $150 billion program to produce "climate friendly" energy supplies

Obama: Encourage but not require universal pre-kindergarten programs, expand teacher mentoring programs and reward teachers with higher pay not tied to standardized test scores, in $18 billion plan

Obama: Tax credit covering 10 percent of annual mortgage interest payments for "struggling homeowners," .... in $20 billion plan

Obama: ...$80 billion in tax breaks mainly for poor workers and elderly

Obama: Aim for universal coverage by requiring employers to share costs of insuring workers ... package would cost up to $65 billion a year after unspecified savings

A lot of money to be spent and he expects to do it all on the backs of businesses and the wealthy.

NObama

McCain/Palin 2008!

Let me take a wild guess where those "key" facts that you take so seriously come from...

Can anyone say "Wing-Nut Web Sites"?

The thing that really cracks me up is that there is a huge chance that McCain won't make it through a full term if he got elected... and you seem more than willing to to chance a Palin in the White house.

Forget the "cracks me up" part... it's actually extremely scary.

Sarah Palin is absolutely unfit to be POTUS.

She is a highly delusional, undereducated, ill-informed, dishonest person who should NEVER have access to a red telephone.

The encouraging part of all this is that Obama has established a clear lead, not only nationally... but in key swing states too.

McCain is now backpeddling and trying to diminish the personal attacks against Obama that he and Palin started. It has been called irresponsible by former members of his staff, and the mob mentality of his rallies has begun to cause him serious problems. So now he's trying to minimize the damage. Interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKn1SO7upY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

"Let me take a wild guess where those "key" facts that you take so seriously come from...

Can anyone say "Wing-Nut Web Sites"?

Yep, it's barackobama.com

here's the link

http://www.barackobama.com

LOL

Very funny.

If that's all you've got, I guess we can look forward to an Obama presidency.

Thanks for playing.

-=OBAMA/BIDEN 2008=-

The thing that really cracks me up is that there is a huge chance that McCain won't make it through a full term if he got elected... and you seem more than willing to to chance a Palin in the White house.

what do you mean huge chance, because he is a old man? i don't understand where you base that on, is he unhealthy? h survived being a POW in Vietnam, i think he has paid enough dues to not be buried before he dies! the thing that cracks me up, if how you or anyone for that matter feels Obama is the answer, you don't even know who he is, NOBODY does. you never did answer the question "what has Obama done for America"? or How is Obama a great American, what has he done to earn the commander and chief position. Fact be known i really don't want either party in office, but we are forced to choose between a Barack Hussein Obama or a John McCain, the answer is clear in my opinion, and that's why i will Vote McCain in 08.

NObama vote McCain 08

Your welcome. It was fun. I can't wait for my grand prize, the "Chatty Obama" doll to arrive. Just pull it's string!

McCain/Palin 08'

Actually, that would be untrue... the polling data is weighted heavily against first time voters... His current leads are not due to new registrations.

New registrations, the overwhelming majority of which are absolutely legit, are probably causing the current polls to UNDER report Obama's lead. Add to that the estimated "youth vote/cell phone factor" and then subtract the estimated "Bradley Effect" and Obama should still have a larger lead than the polls show.

Nice... I like that one... :-D

why is this such a big deal for some of you? elected officials have been abusing power for years and no body complains. if we charge her with it then we should charge the government as a whole. the only difference between her and others is she is more middle class then all the other corrupt officials out there that is why i think this is such a big deal out there dont let it become a big deal here in the middle class community.

"because he is a old man?"

- Yeah... most estimates claim a 15% chance of McCain croaking sometime in the next four years. A 15% chance of a Palin presidency is unacceptable.

"you don't even know who he is"

- I know as much about Obama as either one of us know about McCain.

"NOBODY does"

- What? Why would you say that? He's been thoroughly vetted by both parties and the press... with no major problems. He is a US citizen who was born on our soil and has worked all of his adult life to better himself, his community and his country.

"what has Obama done for America"

- He has been a teacher (a professor actually). He has been a constitutional scholar. He has been a community organizer. He has been a state Senator. He has been a US Senator. What more do you want? His resume dwarfs that of GW Bush.... and I bet you saw fit to vote for that guy twice!

"i really don't want either party in office... i will Vote McCain in 08."

- If you are so displeased with both parties, why not write in Ron Paul... or vote for a third party?

Careful with the "I like that one" thing. Using the "that one" phrase could be taken completely out of context.

LOL...

"why is this such a big deal for some of you?"

- Just to name a few of the reasons it's a "big deal":

- It's a big deal because she is running for the second highest political office in the land.

- It's a big deal because it speaks to Palin's credibility and honesty.

- It's a big deal because it speaks to John McCain's judgment as a leader. If he can't properly vet his VP choice, and bases his choice upon how many votes it will get him (instead of qualifications and leadership ability)... then why should we trust him to choose a viable cabinet, to set foreign policy, negotiate with other countries or nominate judges?

"Obama has heavily supported ACORN"

- Do you think a 3k contribution qualifies as "heavy support"?

- I don't know... lets let the facts come out. It may just be that it needs a leadership overhaul. It may also turn out that most of these bogus registrations were not intended to ever be used... The most likely logical explanation is that the people getting paid to collect registrations were trying to pad their numbers. Such a problem can be fixed.

CEEJAYCAM The arsenic in the water must be working.

"Especially including the key swing states that the Democrats, with help of their highly liberal armies like ACORN, are trying to steal illegally."

So wait, let me get this straight. An unrelated organization registering people to vote who will never actually show up at the polls and vote is somehow worse than refusing to allow properly registered voters the opportunity to vote as happening in Ohio in 2004? They took voting machines from low income, predominantly black neighborhoods so that the lines ended up being very long, many people had to stand out in the rain. People who came to hand out umbrellas to those waiting to vote were removed forcibly by the police. But because that skewed votes in favor of the Republicans, there's nothing wrong with that, but this ACORN BS is disqualifying? How?

actually yes i voted for Bush his first election, but not his second to clarify that for you. most of the country voted for Bush, what are you trying to say? in fact most of the country voted for him his second running, but i did not. Did you vote for him eiher time????

- He has been a teacher (a professor actually). He has been a constitutional scholar. He has been a community organizer. He has been a state Senator. He has been a US Senator. What more do you want? His resume dwarfs that of GW Bush.... and I bet you saw fit to vote for that guy twice!

well let's compare his resume to that of say John McCain?? i think thats the point here, speaking of dwarfing. i'm sorry but i think it's hilarious what you call serving America is, or the answer to "what has Obama done for America" quesion. simply put he has done NOTHING but was a senator for a short time. McCain was a senator and serving this country long before Obama had any creditials. you're only argument is McCain has a 15% chance of dying...lol who the heck could calcuate something like that. does that mean he has a 85% chance of living? McCain is by far a better choice of running this country than Obama. I wonder what the % is that Obama may die or get assainated as president? bthere must be a figure out there since there is of John kickin the bucket.

They took voting machines from low income, predominantly black neighborhoods so that the lines ended up being very long

LMAO!!!! get outta town!! that's just dumb on so many levels..

You have absolutely no evidence of that.

If you do, post it.

"They took voting machines from low income, predominantly black neighborhoods so that the lines ended up being very long

LMAO!!!! get outta town!! that's just dumb on so many levels.."

From About.com:

http://usliberals.about.com/od/electionreform/a/votingrights1.htm

"Voting machines were often allocated in a significantly uneven manner among Republican and Democratic wards...As a result, the wait to vote in most urban areas was much longer...sometimes up to ten hours... than in wealthier neighborhoods. One ward had one machine per thousand voters, while the adjacent suburban ward had only one per 184 voters. And yet, a truckload of 75 voting machines in Franklin County was never put into use on Election Day. Additionally, despite predictions of record voter turnout, a number of polling places in Columbus were moved from large locations with comfortable waiting areas, to smaller locations where voters were required to wait for hours in the rain."

I don't find it amusing.

"i think it's hilarious what you call serving America"

- Really? Are you one of those folks who insists that serving in the military in some capacity is the only way to serve your country? You didn't say that... but it sure sounds that way.

"McCain was a senator and serving this country long before Obama had any creditials."

- Okay... that's nice. It doesn't change the fact that I disagree with McCain on nearly EVERY issue. It doesn't change the fact that most of his stances on the issues align directly with those of George Bush. We've tried all that... and it failed, miserably.

"you're only argument is..."

- No, I've given you many arguments and you have yet to successfully refute any of them other than by saying John McCain has been around a long time... we already know that.

"McCain has a 15% chance of dying...lol who the heck could calcuate something like that."

- People who work with medical statistics. It's done all the time as means of gauging the success of cancer treatments, for example.

"does that mean he has a 85% chance of living?"

- Sure does.

"I wonder what the % is that Obama may die or get assainated as president?"

- From a medical standpoint... Obama is young and in perfect health. From an assassination standpoint, I would never base my vote on such a "fear factor". Besides, Obama actually picked a viable VP. Even Republicans agree that Biden is more than capable and qualified to be POTUS. We cant say as much for the McCain/Palin ticket. in fact we can easily conclude, as many Republicans have, that Palin is not ready for the job and was an irresponsible choice.

"since there is of John kickin the bucket."

- The calculation was not made just for John McCain. It's for three time skin cancer survivors who are in his age group.

BS. You have no facts to back up this asserion, as it is not true. Please read the article I linked. And also please do not claim that it's from a "liberal" website. About.com is an information site, the title of the page is US Liberal Politics.

"Thirty Ohio precincts disregarded requirements for curbside voting machines for seniors and the disabled. A polling place in Cuyahoga County shut down at 9:25 AM on Election Day because they had no working voting machines. The Washington Post estimates that misallocation of voting machines in in Columbus alone reduced the number of voters by up to 15,000. Some find that estimate to be low."

"Until six weeks before the 2004 election, "jurisdiction" was defined in Ohio as county, as it is in most states. In mid-September 2004, Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, also state co-chair of the Republican Bush/Cheney campaign, changed the Ohio definition of "jurisdiction" to mean ward/precinct, not county. Ohio's Republican Governor Bob Taft believed that this change could affect over 100,000 votes."

"Limiting voter registration On September 7, 2004, less than one month before Ohio's voter registration deadline, Blackwell issued a directive mandating rejection of voter registration forms based on their paper weight... Under pressure from voting rights groups, Blackwell reversed his directive on September 28, but it was too late to mitigate the damage."

"Intimidating new minority voters The Ohio Republican Party sent registered letters to 35,000 newly registered voters in minority and urban areas, and then sought to challenge voter eligibility for letters never signed for or delivered. Of course, voters may not be home, may be homeless, may be serving in the armed forces or may be uninterested in or intimidated by an official-looking letter from the Republican Party. In Sanduskey County, Republicans arranged for the county sheriff to visit the residences of 67 of these new registrants. While federal courts found that this technique, called "caging," substantially violated the Due Process Clause of the Constitution, notification to the relevant voters was effectively too late to allow voter challenges to Republican charges of ineligibility based on their address."

"In Ohio 2004, it turned out that there were more Democrats registerred to vote than actual total possible citizens elgible to vote."

- Do you have evidence of this? Notice how camo mamma posted a link?

"ACORN and other radical Democrat organizations were blatently committing voter fraud"

- Were they charged with a crime? Why not? The state was controlled by Republicans at the time.

"They can now get someone to register and vote at the same time meaning an ACORN person can got to some drug addict lying in his own fecis, An illegal imigrant or just make someone up"

- Nope... Ohio requires ID to vote.

"All of these votes (of course) to Obama as these people probably don't even understand who or what their voting for."

- You want to suppress a homeless or less educated person's right to vote? Sure sounds like it.

P.S. - When you copy/paste an entire piece of another person's writing, it is customary to link to it and surround it with quotes. This is for the benefit of your credibility and as a courtesy to others who read it... Not to mention the original author and copyright infringement.

I could go on with the facts of voter fraud perpetrated in Ohio by the Republican party if you'd like.

"Numerous instances of votes incorrectly recorded In its limited investigation, the Washington Post found 25 electronic voting machines that transferred an unknown number of Kerry votes to the Bush column"

"Numerous obvious errors in recording votes Ward 1B in the Gahana precinct of Franklin County recorded 4,258 votes for Bush and 260 votes for Kerry, when this precinct only has 800 registered voters. It was determined after the election that a computer glitch recorded 3,893 extra votes for Bush."

"In Hamilton County, many absentee ballots entirely excluded John Kerry's name, ostensibly due to worker error."

"Confusion in counting provisional ballots Blackwell failed to issue clear standards for the counting of provisional ballots, causing arbitrary and diverse counting practices for each Ohio county. This irregularity conceivably caused 50,000 to 100,000 ballots to not be counted.For instance, in Cuyahoga County, 8,099 out of 24,472 provisional ballots were rejected and never counted, which is twice the normal percentage of provisional ballots rejected there in 2000."

"Recounts were delayed Prior to the 2004 election, Blackwell issued directive that Ohio boards of election need to complete their official counts by December 1, fully one month after Election Day. He also directed that "no recount may be held prior to the official canvass and certification of results." Thus, recounts were stalled until December, and then were required to be completed by December 15. By design, the end result was the impossibility of an Ohio election recount in time to affect the national election."

Like I said in the other thread you guys are wasting your breath arguing with NorcalHeathen. He is a troll in need of medication. Anything that is negative about his democratic boy he says its all "lies" or "ridiculous" or " biased information". Yet he wants to portray everything he posts as if its the gospel. He is a left wing liberal wack job who would vote for any goat the democrats throw up there. He needs to get a job and spend less time posting his rantings. Arguing with him is like racing in the special olympics, even if you will you are still retarded.

McCain and Palin being the Head of the Country will turn out worse than Bush/McCain.

"He is a troll in need of medication."

- Why the animosity? Why attack the man instead of the message?

"Yet he wants to portray everything he posts as if its the gospel."

- I don't believe in any "gospel".

"He is a left wing liberal wack job"

- I'm actually fairly moderate... read my posts for once.

"He needs to get a job"

- I have one... two actually.

"and spend less time posting his rantings."

- What do you care? And... who are you to say what I need? Nobody, that's who.

"Arguing with him is like racing in the special olympics"

- LOL... There are many people who disagree with you... Including many of my opponents here.

So again I ask... why all the animosity and hateful BS? If you don't think something I claim is true, refute it or forget it. My affinity for discussing politics and other issues does not hurt or affect you in any way. Attacking me personally just makes you appear to be a complete a$$hat.

Are you a complete a$$hat?

Jeez... have a beer or something... lighten up!

So all I'm seeing the liberals do on this board are post fact after fact after fact.

And all the conservatives are doing is whining and casting suspicion upon and crying foul.

I'll go with the folks with the facts at their backs.

By the way, whatever happened to the person here who posted under the handle "PALINROCKS"? It's a mystery.

It is interesting to note that this thread seems to reflect the general state of affairs in the US when it comes to the strong polarization of US voters.

The campaign has become a dirt-digging smear fest.

This country was founded on quite possibly the greatest of ideals ever to be put to words as a form of government and albeit flawed as any human creation is orders of magnitudes superior to the fascist governments of past and present which this country is beginning to resemble.

What happens when the government strays so far from the Constitution and the people have forgotten the history of this country and the world and instead filled their minds with hatred? Look at what is happening in the US and in the UK. Will those who hold tight their inalienable rights and frredoms be branded terrorists and tried and hung for treason?

I love the dream of what America was supposed to be, a great beacon or enlightenment and freedom so ironically and disgustingly built upon the corpses of the native Americans. It seems that, as always, the putrid human negative and ignorance will drag it all down.

Good Show and Best Regards for this little planet full of little minds but every day I am inclined more and more to call a Taxi.

"Good Show and Best Regards for this little planet full of little minds but every day I am inclined more and more to call a Taxi."

That should be the quote of the day...not that I agree, but it made a great point while being humorous.

Thanks!

"So all I'm seeing the liberals do on this board are post fact after fact after fact."

I take offense at being referred to as a liberal. I'm actually very conservative, in the true form of teh word. I am fiscally conservative, I want to be able to keep the money that I earn, and expect to pay for all of the goods and services that I receive. I am a social conservative because I believe that the Constitution was written mostly to keep the government out of our private lives, and I want the government to obey the founding fathers in that regard. Marriage should be defined only by the two people involved in it. Medical decisions should be made only by the patient, or in cases if incapacitation, their spouse or nearest family member. Unfortunately the Republicans ceased being truly conservative long ago.

No offense intended, CMama. I'm happy to call myself a liberal, but I'm thinking of changing my label to "conservative" like you. And to all the things you call "conservative" above, I would like to add that I also believe in "conserving" things, like the land, air, water, wildlife, and our habitat in general.

darn liberal media with their facts and figures! i prefer catchy easy to remember slogans for my simple mind, that's why i'm a maverick, you betcha! *wink*

You know, I'm not sure when she showed up, but I am kind of annoyed by her mimicry. Although I have heard that imitation is the highest form of flattery, I'd rather not be flattered by people so easily duped.

It's pretty obvious Palin is out of her league and McCain is out of touch.

Obama/Biden - a much better choice for our future.

We need a change.

"Conservative libs": I'm one of them.

I sometimes think we all agree on 95% of everything. It's just fear that makes us think otherwise.

Really? I feel so honored that you all are talking about me!

No imitation, I am my own person, thanks!