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Alleged poacher arrested with massive buck

Department of Fish and Game Warden DeWayne Little poses with a three-by-three buck shot on an Oak Run ranch Sunday. Little arrested Samuel Gustav Simonis, 23, of Oak Run on suspicion of poaching the deer.

Courtesy of DeWayne Little

Department of Fish and Game Warden DeWayne Little poses with a three-by-three buck shot on an Oak Run ranch Sunday. Little arrested Samuel Gustav Simonis, 23, of Oak Run on suspicion of poaching the deer.

An Oak Run man was arrested Sunday, accused of being caught in the act of dragging away a nearly 200-pound buck he’d allegedly shot illegally on a ranch with his 7-year-old brother.

Department of Fish and Game Warden DeWayne Little said on Sunday he received a report of shots fired on the Buckhorn Ranch off of Fern Road.

Little and warden-in-training, Patrick Freeling, climbed to the highest point of the ranch and waited, peering out over the area with their binoculars, Little said.

They heard a shot, so they rushed down to the area from which the sound emanated, Little said.

They found drag marks.

Freeling and Little followed the trail down to gulch, and saw a man and a boy running away from a freshly killed deer they’d been pulling away, Little said.

Freeling and Little chased the man up a hill and arrested him at gunpoint.

After he was handcuffed, the man led them back to the kill, Little said.

Samuel Gustav Simonis, 23, told them his 7-year-old brother had shot the deer, a 180- to 200-pound buck, with a “three-by-three” set of antlers, Little said.

Simonis didn’t have a hunting license or deer tags, and he didn’t have permission to hunt on the ranch, Little said.

Children under 12 aren’t allowed to deer hunt in California.

Simonis was arrested on suspicion of various charges including poaching, child endangerment and fleeing an officer.

He was released from the Shasta County jail after posting $1,000 bail.

Little said the venison from the deer will be donated to an area food bank.

Reporter Ryan Sabalow can be reached at 225-8344 or rsabalow@redding.com.

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Comments

Posted by hharrison215 on October 6, 2008 at 4:07 p.m.

Wow, so we can donate poached deer to food banks for the poor!!!! That's just awesome! Maybe that food would've better served the family for which it was killed? I dunno... I'm probably wrong. Seems to me that arresting people for something like this is a little backwards. What are the rest of us going to do when the "bail out" causes us to have to hunt and fish? Are we just going to go to jail so that we can have free food? This world sucks.


Posted by JustBob on October 6, 2008 at 4:09 p.m.

Trash hunter! No license, no permission, no sense!


Posted by NorCalPhilosopher on October 6, 2008 at 4:09 p.m.

Is the warden really posing with a poached deer?


Posted by universitygal on October 6, 2008 at 4:11 p.m.

in response to NorCalPhilosopher

Haha that's just what I was thinking...2nd question...is he really smiling about it?


Posted by stinger225 on October 6, 2008 at 4:12 p.m.

in response to hharrison215

Dude there are rules when you can take a deer and apparently Mr. Simonis didn't follow the rules. This world doesn't suck, you suck.


Posted by bejeeze711 on October 6, 2008 at 4:21 p.m.

Omg, he is smiling with a poached buck! What the heck???


Posted by NorCalPhilosopher on October 6, 2008 at 4:21 p.m.

in response to universitygal

No doubt- "Hey you cant do that- wink wink- you know how to work a camera, boy?"


Posted by unstrung on October 6, 2008 at 4:21 p.m.

in response to hharrison215

Hunting in Ca. does not mean that you get "free" food. You pay $38.55 for a liscence, 26.00 for a deer tag and you have to pay for gas and ammo.Raley's would be cheaper for a meal. I bet the seven year old brother now knows the price for poaching,only five more years and he can legally feed the family as long as he can afford the fees associated with killing a deer.Squirrels are cheaper to kill and they taste better once you pick the lead out.


Posted by Iwonder on October 6, 2008 at 4:28 p.m.

I believe he is smiling because he caught this poacher. They have been talking some time about people going on this ranch and poaching. I am glad they caught them and for that brother to blame it on his little brother, what kind of family is that? If by chance it was true that they were hungry, maybe if they would have explained their circumstances, maybe just maybe they would have been given permission (if it was deer season).

Also, According to the newspaper, they (the land owners) did not know they (the poachers) were on their land so what if (hypothetical scenario) it was your ranch and your family had been out there (maybe a family reunion or something) and they missed the deer and one of your loved ones were shot?

Things happen......

That is why there is laws in place.


Posted by bombillo on October 6, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.

The same thing happened on my ranch with an adult poacher that was caught 4 years ago with his young companion. The juvenile returned 4 years later to become the perpetrator. The cycle repeats. It's bad parenting folks.


Posted by animalcracker on October 6, 2008 at 4:50 p.m.

Good job warden Little.


Posted by NeoSamurai on October 6, 2008 at 4:54 p.m.

Warden brought his a game to work that day, I wonder if it has anything to do with that morning when Your Neo Samurai was at Dutch Bro's and the warden said "Hey what you drinking their Neo Samurai?" I told him the yerba matte tea. I bet homeboy ordered one afterwards and that started his day off with some enhanced mental clarity.


Posted by fredbear on October 6, 2008 at 4:59 p.m.

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Posted by web on October 6, 2008 at 5:07 p.m.

Excellent job wardens

What would you do if you had an armed trespasser in your backyard shooting?


Posted by calkid on October 6, 2008 at 5:16 p.m.

the game warden smiling really has nothing to do with it.

This guy was breaking the law.

I wonder if this is the same Simonis family that has been around Shasta county for years, if so not surprised to hear about poaching. Good job game warden.

Throw the book at him. Make it expensive, won't stop him but might make some one else stop a think twice. If the family I know about they won't pay the fine or do time, probably won't show up for court


Posted by budman39 on October 6, 2008 at 5:26 p.m.

in response to hharrison215

Arresting someone that has trespassed on private property, fired a high powered rifle, killing a deer out of season without proper documentation "...is a little backwards"?

Yes, "...the world sucks" for losers like you that can't work up the energy to raise yourself out of your coffin of "alas, poor me" long enough to see the opportunities all around you...


Posted by adingal_5 on October 6, 2008 at 5:33 p.m.

Come on we all know that by the size of this deer it was all for fun and game. Maybe they might of ate the meat but it for sure wasnt going to be to feed his family cause they had nothing to eat. This like all other hunters that just shoot for the trophy should all be illegal.


Posted by dingweed on October 6, 2008 at 5:35 p.m.

massive ?


Posted by Lori_UOP on October 6, 2008 at 5:38 p.m.

As a property owner that has huge issues with trespassers and poaching, Warden Little has helped us as much as he possibly could. Does anyone remember "Robo-Deer"? That program was enacted because of such things as what this article shows - poaching and illegal hunting. We ranch owners are required by law to post No Trespassing signs every 300 feet....we have people CUT fences right next to a sign then have the gall to say they did not know it was private property...The sign says "Private Property, No Trespassing." Maybe they just can't read????
Sorry, this is one of my personal pet peeves...I am sure that Warden Little is happy to actually be able to catch a poacher...usually his hands are tied as we must CATCH them in the act. Many times we find a vehicle parked on the road adjacent to the property and never can catch them. Thank you local game wardens for all you do and all you attempt to do for us.


Posted by walterwhite on October 6, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.

For private property that deer is not massive. People kill giant private property pet deer all the time on ranches around here. Some of them make that buck look small.


Posted by grich530 on October 6, 2008 at 6:03 p.m.

Hope the kid learned his lesson. Buy a license and tag and get your deer legally like all the rest of us. Simonis' are NOT above the law, sorry.


Posted by wonderofitalll on October 6, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.

You sit and judge, you smug know-nothings.

The real problem here is that we all sit and watch as our freedoms are revoked, one by one.

Yes, this guy broke the law - and he will pay, according to the system, not according to your sniveling.

But other than trespassing, which I do not condone, this should not even have been a crime.

If he was out hunting on foot (which most hunters don't do, since they would have to leave their beer coolers in order to get out of their truck), and managed to hunt with his little brother and drop this nice buck, he should be entitled to it (again, he should not have been on somebody else's property without permission, I agree).

But why does the government even have the right to tell us when, or what, we can hunt on our own lands?

When the Wardens came for the poachers,
I remained silent;
I was not a poacher.

When they locked up the trespassers,
I remained silent;
I was not a trespasser.

When they came for the licensed hunters,
I did not speak out;
I was not a licensed hunter.

When they came for the guns,
I remained silent;
I was a pacifist, and didn't own a gun.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out,
and nothing with which to stand against the tyranny...

Possible prison, for this....? It is all out of whack.

I know this family, and I'd take 2 Simonis's for all you whiny snivellers ANY day... the day may come soon enough when you wish there were more like them among us.


Posted by jacks66vette on October 6, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.

in response to calkid

I think he is related to the family...must have been a bad year for Xmas trees last year..he is getting his venison ready for this year ....makes you wonder how many years he has been doing this before???


Posted by californiakayaker on October 6, 2008 at 6:09 p.m.

I have a feeling with this economy, there will be some hungry folks out there.

Legal hunting for sport is a pricey game.

But, this hunter isn't a Shasta county man, according to my info. He is from Portland . So, something isn't right with this story.

How did someone from Portland end up poaching on this ranch ?


Posted by snbplace on October 6, 2008 at 6:12 p.m.

I don't mean to sound rude but did you ever think maybe this guy was trying to feed his family?? I don't think it is a crime to kill deer if they are trying to feed the needy. It's like fishing! Lots of people out there need this to feed themself.


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 6, 2008 at 6:24 p.m.

in response to snbplace

The Simonis family has been around this area for years and they are notorius for being shady. They don't fit the conventional family profile. Don't you remember when Grandpa Simonis died and they blocked the sheriff by using the children as a blockade?? Besides it would take more than one buck (no matter how big) to feed their family. They all have between 10-12 children.


Posted by walterwhite on October 6, 2008 at 6:33 p.m.

in response to wonderofitalll

U are a nut, there is a reason the simonis clan keeps getting in trouble.....


Posted by cluelessgeorge on October 6, 2008 at 6:37 p.m.

Good thing this was not in Tehama County, because the DA there does not want to press charges on FG laws being broken. Could be that it is only in reguards to who you are, where the law was broken, etc.. He (the DA) would have the warden consult and help this jerk. This guy was not hunting to feed his family. He was hunting to hunt. Even if he was "hunting to feed his family" I'll bet there is beer in the refridgerator.


Posted by rocckhound on October 6, 2008 at 6:38 p.m.

Where can we hunt???

Sunday I drove up Trinity mountain road and then down East fork rd only to find a forest ranger armed with a gun blocking a gate that was never there before.
I got out and ask him how he could close a road that had been open for at least 60 years. "Just my job" he said. That's what Hitler's SS said "it's Just my job".
My grandfather (a Logger) built that road along with Cliff Weslake (a gold miner) from French Gulch. Five generations of my family have hunted those woods.

Where do we go now???

How can we fight a government that would put armed men in front of gates blocking our heritage???

Sierra Pacific has closed their land, Roseburg has closed their land. NOW OUR GOVERMENT is closing OUR LAND!!!!

I may be a trespasser soon


Posted by scolbert on October 6, 2008 at 6:40 p.m.

in response to wonderofitalll

Wonderofitall, thank you for that sensitive post. I agree with you wholeheartedly and LOVE the poem you posted. I know it was based on that poem about the Holocaust and the German average Joe's who let it happen. But I think it works a lot better as a poem about gun-owning Great Americans like Simonis. They are the victims here.

To me this is also a 2nd Amendment issue. This guy was just exercising his right to bear arms and should be applauded for that. I think he should be able to use his gun wherever and whenever he wants. A massive deer like that is perfectly capable of defending itself. If God wanted it to live, it would have lived. This is God's will AND the Constitution in action.

Anyway, more power to you, brother. You too are a Great American.


Posted by alumni_pine_st_school on October 6, 2008 at 6:44 p.m.

Glad the Game Wardens are catching some poachers this year.
I wonder who will get the horns?


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 6, 2008 at 6:45 p.m.

in response to walterwhite

I've always kinda referred to them as gypsys; but I like "clan" much better.....it is more fitting. For trying to stay under the radar they do a very poor job. Maybe in their next life they will reincarnate as law abiding, tax paying citizens.


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 6, 2008 at 6:50 p.m.

in response to scolbert

Simonis are great Americans???? How many have social security numbers??? How many have birth certificates?? They use our resources without care.
And how can a deer even a massive deer win against a firearm?


Posted by not2bright on October 6, 2008 at 6:54 p.m.

in response to scolbert

if you want to exercise your right to "bare arms"...wear a sleeveless shirt...


Posted by mr_e_man on October 6, 2008 at 7:01 p.m.

in response to hharrison215

If you think the world sucks, then you should exit, post haste.


Posted by manuel on October 6, 2008 at 7:04 p.m.

it was a deer. the dude would had have to gut it and all. the warden looks happy, either a stuffed deer to put somewhere or they got some free meat for a few.......


Posted by scolbert on October 6, 2008 at 7:06 p.m.

in response to not2bright

Uh oh, Not2's repeating himself.

Well, me too.


Posted by scolbert on October 6, 2008 at 7:11 p.m.

in response to shastaclmbr

How can a massive deer win against a firearm?!? You obviously don't watch TV all the time like me. See this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59AEqNPpYzY

That is one bad deer. Simonis was probably acting in self defense. He's lucky he had a deer rifle on him.

Look, I don't know if Simonis is actually an American, but anyone who respects the 2nd Amendment in this country is all-American by me. It's the liberals who always try to take our guns away that I worry about.


Posted by jjones96002 on October 6, 2008 at 7:15 p.m.

in response to scolbert

You cannot be as ignorant as what you posted, right?
How about this, if God did not want him arrested then he would have got away!
Get real....


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 6, 2008 at 7:18 p.m.

in response to scolbert

I agree about the Liberals; but I know the Simonis family very well and they believe their own law; none other. And no, I don't watch too much TV; but the point is that they trespassed and poached. After the Jurin mess their timing couldn't have been worse.


Posted by scolbert on October 6, 2008 at 7:24 p.m.

in response to jjones96002

<<How about this, if God did not want him arrested then he would have got away!>>

He hasn't gotten away . . . yet!


Posted by scolbert on October 6, 2008 at 7:27 p.m.

in response to shastaclmbr

If everyone exercised their 2nd Amendment right like they should, he would never have trespassed. At least not for long . . .

And I didn't accuse you of watching too much tv. I simply said I do. I prefer that to reading books, in fact. Except for books about guns.


Posted by kevinsahleen1 on October 6, 2008 at 7:40 p.m.

Simonis, as in Simonis Christmas Tree farm, they sell Christmas trees in Redding every year, nice.


Posted by Rottenweiler on October 6, 2008 at 7:47 p.m.

The Simonis family does not poach to feed their families, Poaching is a FAMILY TRADITION !!!


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 6, 2008 at 7:52 p.m.

in response to Rottenweiler

You know them well.


Posted by shastalin on October 6, 2008 at 7:52 p.m.

in response to jjones96002

Yeah, really


Posted by red on October 6, 2008 at 7:59 p.m.

in response to shastalin

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Posted by alumni_pine_st_school on October 6, 2008 at 8:02 p.m.

By the smile on the game wardens face, it looks like its his buck.


Posted by Andersingirlie on October 6, 2008 at 8:12 p.m.

Seems to be a lot of poachers getting caught, btw he wasnt related to the Jurins was he?


Posted by not2bright on October 6, 2008 at 8:30 p.m.

free venison jerky with every xmas tree purchased...


Posted by stan on October 6, 2008 at 8:38 p.m.

Well, What about the people that "hunt" deer by Shasta Lake with a loaf of bread? Now that must be a real hunting adventure! I believe that IS legal...


Posted by Beat_A_Dead_Horse on October 6, 2008 at 8:38 p.m.

in response to Lori_UOP

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Posted by c4 on October 6, 2008 at 8:47 p.m.

in response to hharrison215

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Posted by c4 on October 6, 2008 at 8:49 p.m.

in response to web

he was an armed trespasser in someone's backyard and obviously shooting!!!


Posted by rmv40 on October 6, 2008 at 9:30 p.m.

glad it waSN't RUDOLPH!


Posted by 6GenShastaCo on October 6, 2008 at 9:45 p.m.

To those who have addressed Mr. Simonis as a hunter. He is a poacher, not a hunter. There is a huge difference.

Warden Little should smile, he did a great job. Not only has he saved, who knows how many other deer the poacher would have killed, but the meat will go to a family in need. Good job.


Posted by alumni_pine_st_school on October 6, 2008 at 10 p.m.

Ron Jurin, Bella Vista Poacher of Elk, Bear and other animals and Simonis, Oak Run Poacher of Deer was both trained at the Red Banks Quail and Ale hunting club where owner Robert Hassel of Red Bluff Poached Turkeys.

After that post, Im poached, gonna have a beer!


Posted by Dustybottoms2 on October 6, 2008 at 10:07 p.m.

Stupid deer!


Posted by Dustybottoms2 on October 6, 2008 at 10:23 p.m.

Hi Prancer, I just couldn't come up with a goat-head comment that made sence.


Posted by gottarodeo on October 6, 2008 at 10:23 p.m.

in response to Prancer2

They need to put coal in the guys stocking and hang it on the christmas tree. Poaching is wrong, hopefully Mr. Simonis will figure it out soon.


Posted by 6GenShastaCo on October 6, 2008 at 10:41 p.m.

in response to JustJosh

The difference is a bit more than just a deer tag. Like a license, tag, and trespassing. Also, a legal hunter does not go to jail, he goes home to enjoy his venison. A poacher, when caught, goes to jail. Seems like quite a big difference to me.


Posted by gottarodeo on October 6, 2008 at 10:46 p.m.

in response to Prancer2

You are so right! Thanks for making me laugh too. Growing up in a timber family, I have heard so many stories about these folks that nothing surprises me anymore. LOL.
My husband works in the timber industry and the guys at the office have new stories that I didn't hear from my dad.


Posted by blacksheep on October 6, 2008 at 11:46 p.m.

in response to wonderofitalll

right on! i like your style of thinking. it's the truth. the problem was the trespassing.

everyone is more and more being blocked from entering, what is supposed to be, the national forests that belong to the people.

as anyone with 1/2 a brain can see, everything belongs to the government and not the common people. just what, and who, is the government? obviously it is a tool that serves the purpose of people, but which people? not us peasants!

all the lemmings are continually herded into the compounds of cities. the death grip around their throats squeezing tighter and tighter.

we are not free, we are all slaves! we have to continually pay for our very existence. the land we live on, the clothes we buy, the water we drink, our food, everything.

you either pay for your survival, directly to the few that own and control the world, or you pay taxes for the remainder, to the government that represents them.

we're all slaves that pay for our own bondage. even worse, look how many people don't even have enough wits to recognize it!


Posted by painterguy on October 7, 2008 at 12:11 a.m.

Another cheating slimebag busted ! Good Job Little ! Give this man an award for his bust. If I got to pay for a hunting license and tag then so should everyone else !


Posted by nobs on October 7, 2008 at 6:13 a.m.

hunt the deer i don't care but do it on your own land why should we have to post no tresspassing if you don't own it then where is any permission given to let alone come on anyones property.


Posted by chellebell on October 7, 2008 at 6:20 a.m.

Northern California rednecks! Also, it is very tacky for the warden to be smiling and posing with the poached, murdered, deer...I think he should be terminated, at least written up, for it, in my opinion. I just do not understand how anybody could murder innocent animals like that, I understand the need for food, and if you want fresh meat, maybe I can tolerate that argument, but how many of you animal-murderers REALLY use it for fresh meat? We have grocery stores, we have health food stores, you do not need to kill innocent animals, corporations do enough of that for all of us, to sell in their stores, and for clothing. I am not hung up on the license issue, personally, my problem is the murdering of innocent animals and the mental state that someone would have to be in to enjoy doing that? It has been said that killing animals is a red flag that someone could have mental problems/violence issues (especially in young adults/teens/kids)? For me, it is all about the question of why someone would ENJOY killing an animal. How would you like it if someone just thought it would be fun to kill your dog? Maybe the link between wife-beating up here in North Ca, and other domestic-violence problems up here, is connected to the promotion of hunting??? Just a thought. The warden posing with it, to me it looks like a crooked officer posing with a bunch of drugs, smiling and goofing around....TACKY! Lets set the question of being licensed, or not, aside, it really is just a matter of paying a fee and getting a piece of paper, and yes you need to fallow the law (no matter if it is a law you agree with or not) and yes the money supposedly goes to pay for services? However, why would anybody ENJOY killing an animal? If you enjoy killing things, shouldn't you be locked up in a mental ward? In my opinion, if you enjoy killing things, things with a beating heart, then you need some serious help mentally, I feel. You people up here train your kids to go out and kill innocent animals but you then try to teach them that all other forms of violence is bad? Huh? Sickos! Why can't you get another hobby? Something that does not involve murdering a beating heart. Does it make you feel like a man to kill an innocent animal? If it does, then I think you have some serious issues.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3430749950216866209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FArqWvEq4xo&feature=related
http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/first_strike_the_connection_between_animal_cruelty_and_human_violence/animal_cruelty_and_
family_violence_making_the_connection/
"to take pleasure in the death of another being is MURDER even if that being is a non-human" (quoted from below)
http://www.all-creatures.org/sof/hunt.html
http://www.snbw.org/articles/animalabuse.htm


Posted by ShastaMomof4 on October 7, 2008 at 7:24 a.m.

in response to chellebell

I think YOU belong in a mental ward.

A couple of points to make here.

Lets start with Deputy Litte. Having had personal experience with thsi Deputy I know that he is smiling because he loves his job. He caught another poacher in the act. Poachers give legal law abiding hunters a bad name. Its called JOB SATISFACTION that makes you smile like that.

As for the whole hunting arguement-

Do you eat meat? Where do you buy it? Raleys? R & R?

Someone KILLED that animal too. Except FIRST they raised it.. fed it... then slaughtered it. Thats kidnapping with intent to murder isnt it?

SO basically what you are telling the public is that it is ok to HIRE someone to murder your meat but not to possess the SKILL, PATIENCE and DETERMINATION to go out and PROVIDE for yourself and your family.

Up until the 1900's and all the nifty inventions that came with the century it was perfectly normal for some member of the family to go out and hunt. That is how families supported themselves. SO now that we have Raleys or Safeway, all the sudden it isnt cool to do it ourselves? Instead we are doomed to eat the mad cow, hormone stuffed meat that is provided for us?

How would you have survived in 1875? Do you think your neighbors would say "oh sorry you dont like us murdering deer but here's some meat so you dont STARVE all winter"

No.
Wouldnt happen.
It's hard work and often after spending $100's in licenses and tags and gas money to get to places we can hunt.. we leave without venison for our families.

As for eating the kill.. I can't speak for all hunters buT i can speak for myself and my family. We LOVE venison and eat as much of it as we can. It is good for your heart, so much leaner than beef. And tastier too.

Please before you go off on another of your PETA rants. Do some research.

Hunting exsists for a reason. WIth the loss of habitations due to greedy business men buying up all open land.. the land left can not sustain the animal populations. So is it better for a deer to STARVE to death or cleanly be killed and aid a family to eat for awhile?

-ShastaMomof4 (who all eat venison and love it)


Posted by Rottenweiler on October 7, 2008 at 7:57 a.m.

in response to shastaclmbr

YOU SHOULD NOT ASSUME THAT I KNOW THAT FAMILY WELL...THEY HAVE A REPUTATION FOR POACHING IN THE OAK RUN AREA...ONLY NOW ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN THE ACT....THE FACT THAT HE WAS CAUGHT WILL NOT STOP THE REST OF THE FAMILY FROM WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THEIR RIGHT OF PASSAGE...AFTER ALL HE WAS KEEPING WITH THE FAMILY TRADITION AND TRAINING HIS 7 YR OLD BROTHER HIS POACHING TECHNIQUE, HE EVEN BLAMED THE CHILD FOR THE CRIME.

GREAT JOB WARDEN LITTLE!!!


Posted by shastaclmbr on October 7, 2008 at 8:27 a.m.

in response to Rottenweiler

I happen to know the family very well; mind you they are not friends of mine. You hit the nail on the head a few times with your comments; which lead me to believe you also knew them, but instead are just familiar with their reputation.


Posted by Beat_A_Dead_Horse on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 a.m.

The Simonis family is a loving family living as God intended.

The world is changing, and the rules are changing. For thousands of years man lived in family units taking care of each other and living off the land.

My kids are all grown, they are nurses, and engineers, living in the cities and making more money than my generation could ever have imagined, but what is lost???

We rarely see each other, and they have no free time for themselves.

We are being turned into slaves for the man!

We are being judged by a corrupt system!

I will take the Simonis way of life, they answer to a higher authority. Come judgement day they will be fine.

Will You?


Posted by CultureWarrior on October 7, 2008 at 10:52 a.m.

in response to rocckhound

Yo, rocckhound.

Did the ranger at the gate tell you you couldn't walk down East Fork Rd?

Or, did he tell you that the road is no longer open to vehicle traffic?

I strongly suspect that road might have been closed off as part of the "roadless areas" changes. But, just because you can't drive on it, doesn't mean you're shut out of it. You're probably still free to hike, bike, or horseback ride on it.


Posted by CultureWarrior on October 7, 2008 at 10:54 a.m.

in response to Beat_A_Dead_Horse

re: "I will take the Simonis way of life, they answer to a higher authority. Come judgement day they will be fine."

That's what those moron Williams' brothers thought too.


Posted by local1974 on October 7, 2008 at 5:12 p.m.

in response to kevinsahleen1

Simonis as in Simonis Xmas trees AND <b>SNOW MOUNTAIN SPRING WATER</b>, TOO. They run both companies.


Posted by local1974 on October 7, 2008 at 5:25 p.m.

in response to kevinsahleen1

Simonis as in Simonis Xmas trees AND SNOW MOUNTAIN SPRING WATER, TOO. They run both companies.


Posted by local1974 on October 7, 2008 at 5:51 p.m.

Regardless of the opinions on poachers... The warden is discusting with his grin. He probably wasn't a very good hunter when he was younger and decided to get all the good hunters anyway he could. Reminds me of bully kids turned COPS. Power Happy Hypocrites... He's probably a brown noser working the property owners for hunting rights on their land while claiming to "protect their property and the animals." Oh yeah, the tax payers are paying him every working day to scout his animals to hunt when on his days off. BUT, At least he's out on the ranch... instead of in the rancher's bed, with the rancher's wife, like before in other counties...


Posted by ShastaMomof4 on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 p.m.

in response to local1974

Did Deputy Little catch you poaching? Is that why you are so against him?

The man was doing his job.. protecting the public and the animals.

Maybe someone said something funny as they took the picture... we dont know.

But I do know.. he loves his job. And I hope he catches every poacher out there.

Anyone else notice a lack of legal bucks this year?


Posted by twicks on October 8, 2008 at 1:37 p.m.

Great job DeWayne. I wish everyone reading this article could see how hard you work every day. Thank you for your dedication.


Posted by dashriprock on October 8, 2008 at 1:41 p.m.

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Posted by ohman on October 9, 2008 at 11:47 a.m.

in response to californiakayaker

Well according to your sources you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.


Posted by ohman on October 9, 2008 at 12:43 p.m.

in response to wonderofitalll

right on


Posted by ohman on October 9, 2008 at 1:03 p.m.

in response to shastaclmbr

You have no idea what you are talking about! I don't think you were there back then when Grandpa Simonis Died!? How dare you. They were trying to take him and dismantle his body when he had been sick for years. The family doctor was out of town and the Corner and officers where trying to act against the will and beliefs of the family and had absolutely no right to come in and take his body away. No children were placed out in front of guns. The family was in the house morning the loss of their dearly loved one. So please don't speak of things you know nothing of!

Now, the fact that Sam was on someones private property, which is wrong but I do not see how you can persecute the rest of his family for it. If you knew their true nature and love of their family and this earth you would not be saying things like this. People are talking like he was 50 yards from someones home where their children play, if you knew anything about the area you would know that Buck Horn is a Giant wilderness of a ranch. Besides the trespassing, I see no wrong in what he did. People have been killing wild animals for food for thousands of years. Who are you or anyone else to place judgment on that, and I know for a fact that that family uses every bit of any animal they kill. If a little one kills a bird with a rock, Pa or Ma would force them to make use of it. As for this child endangerment charge, I'm sorry but in the wild i would put more trust in that 7 year old kid than any of the people that have posted here. When this bail out crap destroys all of the things you have all come to depend on you would be lucky to have a little kid like that on your side.


Posted by dashriprock on October 9, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.

in response to dashriprock

It's funny how Mr. Little's behavior in the past is being stricken from these posts. May the truth set you free DeWayne Little. Throwing rocks when you live in a glass house. You are no role model and should not be in a position of authority. Also, why would you pose with the buck holding it like a trophy? Posing with the 7 year olds buck. Pretty admirable.


Posted by wannabe_redneck on October 10, 2008 at 7:29 p.m.

Can ya beat a dead horse with a rock hound?


Posted by CamoQueen22 on October 12, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.

in response to chellebell

I think you have some serious issues.

Let me guess, one of your hobbies. PETA? Oh please.

We hunt and eat our kill just like they did before we had grocery stores THAT DID THE SAME THING!

I would like to know, have you ever eaten meat? If so, where do you think it came from? Grown in a garden? Nope. It came from a deer more than likely. SO please, before you point your fingers at us hunters, make sure your own hands are clean.


Posted by BO on October 13, 2008 at 10:05 a.m.

in response to CultureWarrior

CultureWarrior and Rockhound, I just can't believe the Forest Service would have funds to pay some ranger to sit around all day keeping people off that road with a weapon, is this for real? What the heck is going on? Are you sure he was Forest Service and he was in full uniform and all???


Posted by rocckhound on October 13, 2008 at 7:24 p.m.

Sign said: area CLOSED to the public.

The ranger was there putting up signs and locking the gate, I don't think he was going to sit around all day, but he was telling people not to come back.


Posted by chellebell on October 15, 2008 at 6:34 a.m.

in response to ShastaMomof4

You think you still live in 1875? Sweety, it is 2008. We don't need "the man of the house" to go out and murder a helpless animal to feed our 4+ children, anymore. Society is now more civilized, except in North Ca? Guess what? women work now even! Women have cars (to drive to stores) and jobs (to buy food), many provide for their own families...some even without a man to "kill animals" for them...I know...times have changed a lot since 1875! You can still try to live like it is 1875, yeehaw! BTW, women vote and there is a black man running for president! People who think it is a sport, that it is fun, to kill helpless animals, yeehaw! May I ask you how many (the exact number please) of these animal-murders are used for FOOD? Are you telling me that ALL animals killed are ALWAYS ALL used for food and NEVER just for sport, NEVER just for fun? Are you telling me that hunting is not a sport, not for fun, but ONLY for food? Do we live in 1875 still? We have plenty of factory farms that supply all of us enough food. There are studies that suggest that hunting can lead to child abuse, domestic violence. But, hey, I don't pretend to think that I will convince anybody, you cannot argue with rednecks, you cannot argue with ignorance, period. I agree to disagree and I will not "fight" about it. I try not to eat meat, although I have. I actually once lived on a small family farm in South Ca and it makes me sick to think about eating our pets (cows, pigs). If one must eat meat, we have grocery stores, we have ENOUGH people running factory farms to supply the stores with meat. We have organic/whole food stores that offer alternatives & "free range". There are enough animals making the ultimate sacrifice for your dinner table, at these farms, and there are enough people making huge profits for your dinner. I cannot understand the ignorant menality in this area of cali! For your health, maybe you should consider an alternative diet? I am not involved with PETA, I just use common sense. Why don't you save your money that you would spend on hunting licenses to teach your children to respect all forms of life, maybe donate to your local animal shelter? Maybe donate to struggling poor families, Or how about saving for your children's college? Your right, there are enough people killing animals, needlessly, so don't contribute to more.
http://www.idausa.org/facts/hunting.html
http://animalliberationfront.com/Practical/Fishing--Hunting/Hunting/FallacyofSportHunting.htm
Just some side notes about life circa 1875
http://www.suffragist.com/timeline.htm
http://www.awesomestories.com/sample_topics/civil_rights.shtml
http://www.voicesofcivilrights.org/timeline_alt.html
http://www.kawvalley.k12.ks.us/brown_v_board/segregation.htm
http://www.jimcrowhistory.org/history/creating2.htm


Posted by chellebell on October 15, 2008 at 7:51 a.m.

in response to ShastaMomof4

Adding to the comment I just now sent...another advancement we have now, compared to your yr. 1875 comment...we also now have indoor plumbing too. Should we go back to outhouses so that we can live like it is 1875? Take away a woman's right to vote? Go back to racial segregation? etc., Of coarse not, so why do we hunt like it is 1875?
As far as your venison being healthy, you may want to consider:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/risks11604.cfm
http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.cfm
http://www.uwex.edu/ces/ag/issues/fmd/Meat_fact_sheet.pdf
http://www.ndhealth.gov/lead/venison/
http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D90L3NG80.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004411823_apwstleadconference2ndldwritethru.html?syndication=rss
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/deerhealth.htm
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health-fitness/mad-cow-disease-update-705/mad-cow-disease-update-overview-705/index.htm?resultPageIndex=1&resultIndex=1&searchTerm=mad+cow+update
"researchers are investigating the deaths of several people who hunted or regularly ate venison and subsequently succumbed to brain-wasting disease"


Posted by leeannsayshey on October 17, 2008 at 4:20 p.m.

in response to adingal_5

They dont waste a bit of meat on any animal they sacrifice for their family. That was a harsh comment. If they only wanted the "trophy" they would of only taken the horns you idiot! I do agree that they should of not went on someonelses land, but then again, this land is your land , this land is my land. Criminal....NO! Let mother nature and the gods decide!


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