Make their parents pay for the time and effort to catch these punks and then lock them "the kids" up for awhile....

My son who is 12 knows the difference between right and wrong, and what is a crime. If the kids want to act like adults and do what they have done...fine let them be treated like adults.

legalize pot and these problems will go away! There is no harm from using pot!!

Oh wait...

a teen center might reduce this type of crime by providing activities, peer counseling, & drug intervention. parents are always the target of blame, but cannot supervise 24/7. i've known bad kids that came from really good homes. big cities have provided outlets for teens and know the benefits. redding wants to be a "big" city but lacks concern about their teens. anderson has a great teen center. but, then again redding has that plastic bridge that leads to nowhere.

"...incorrigible..." df: impervious to correction by punishment.

I think most kids understand right from wrong at age 12. But soon after, many seem to forget.

I wonder if these are the kids who stole my checkbook from my car and my friends Ipod.

not2bright
"parents are always the target of blame, but cannot supervise 24/7"
Parents are should be held responsible for their teenagers..I knew where my kids were...i made sure of that..

The teen centers in this area tend to not have great responses in this area. There was one on Bechelli for awhile and it closed down.

If the kid does the crime the parents should do the time! Just watch and see if the same kids have any more problems after the parents have spent jail time. Not to mention the next generations attitude when they raise their kids!

if parents not already on assistance the kids will be if parent go to jail....if a kid causes damage or injury and the parents are on assistance....reduce what they receive.

66vette
I always appreciate your comments. You had good kids which made it easy to be a good parent. I raised two good kids too, and foster parented another one. Good parenting helped, but I have also seen a truely rotten kid come from a home where the other children are respectful and the parents are involved and loving. With teens, peer pressure is important. With these 6 kids involved, I can almost guarantee one of them comes from a good home, but succumbed to peer pressure. I do think these kids need to take responsibility and get tough punishment. There are city cars that need to be cleaned. Bushes to be trimed. Litter to be picked up. Make them perform those duties in public wearing a vest that identifies them as junior criminals.

I wonder if this is the same crew who vandalized a number of vehicles a week ago.. If so they need to punished and someone should be liable for paying for the damage done to the vehicles..

how about ordering their parents to wear signs that indicate it was their kids that did the "damge"...although they are probably without shame already...

These aren't kids they are punks. There seem to be a lot of them around these days. They have no respect for their elders. Kids aren't taught to respect their elders anymore. We learned that early in life and I still respect anyone my elder. Too bad somethings are taught anymore. The prisons are full of Punks and that's where they all belong.

licence plates, that indicate there are delinquents present so when they go anywhere everyone will know that they can't control their kids! Like a public warning or heads up for other parents. The problem starts with the parents not the children as there are too many out there that expect society at large and the school system to teach their children right from wrong.

Yes, the problem starts and ends with the parents.
Year round schooling helps, keeps them busy, too much free time on their hands!! Not enough responsibility taught at home and no respect taught in the schools or at home!

It says "narcotics". Pot is not a narcotic.

Having worked in Juvenile Hall in a big city while getting my psychology degree, dealing with kids from all parts of town, all kinds of income, all kinds of families, I know that all kinds of kids get into trouble. It is not just the parents' fault since ultimately, the kids are going to make up their own minds and do what they want. Some kids stay home and read. Other kids roam around looking for things to steal.

I'm thinking "cockroaches"; for every one you (smash), there's 20 more.

Methinks, after a full day's rampage, the cops, out of frustration, may have bagged the 6 most visible.

You need a license for a dog, a car, a business, to fish and hunt, but oh no, not to be a parent. This great country was founded on the belief that all men were created equaly and if you didn't treat each other that way you were punished harshly out in public for all to see. This is a foundational problem in which the parents did not instill in these children basic respect for others and thier property. These children have not be raised to "believe they can achieve" anything they work hard enough for. If these boys were taken to a ranch some where and given to an old school cowboy, like my 93yr old grandfather who still lives on his 260 acre working farm in NE Montana, and forced to EARN THEIR KEEP from dawn to dusk, I am fully convinced they would become assets to this country for the rest of their lives instead of a liability to the rest of us. But for now we will take the burden off their parents or who ever failed at raising these boys, and pay their room, board and education while we try to decide what a fitting punishment will be. Meanwhile the victims will spend the next six weeks fighting with their insurance companies to get their cars fixed.

flog them publicly and I bet we might stop them and some others from doing the same.

Just yet another reason pot should stay as an illegal drug. They should post the names of these kids instead of letting them hide behind the fact they are under 18. If they are big enough to commit the crimes, they should be held accountable and their names should be published.

How can we blame the parents these days when we have to fear someone might turn you in for child abuse just when you spank your kids these days.

Punks make good fodder!

why spank? just impose reasonable expectations for your children with clearly defined consequences then be strong enough to enforce the consequences when, not if, but when your child fails to meet the reasonable expectations. Then CPS will never get involved. No yelling, no spanking, no name calling, just simple cause and effect lessons. Much easier said than done, but it's the only thing that works, so far. My kids are 12 and 15.

I raised 3 children on my own and not one of them has done drugs and they are proud of it. Oh, yea, I had to work full time and couldn't watch them 24/7. Some parents just don't give a crap anymore!! Maybe their parents are doing drugs too!

Well said. Never, I mean Never, let anyone take that accomplishment from you. Thankyou for seeing it to the end with passion and conviction.

Thank you. It's a GREAT feeling!!

These are great insights. I too agree that the parenting these days is greatly lacking. And it isn't just a case of "poor parenting'. In response to the juvi caseworker above who has seen kids from "good families" make poor choices: yes- ANY kid can fall prey to a bad crowd/influence, and make a poor choice; it happens. But those same parents who are "good" parents are also often in denial of what their kids are up to/capable of. Denial is part of the problem. As a teacher, I see relatively good parents in denial all the time. As for teen centers: they are like school parent/teacher conferences--the ones who attend aren't the ones who are in jeapordy. The ones who really need to come... don't.

jeopardy. sorry.

Looks like these parents flunked parenting 101. No you cannot watch your kids 24/7, but if you have done your job as a parent, it is not necessary.

No. I am a good parent and I have never been in denial!! My son is a firefighter and my oldest daughter has 3 college degrees. These parents are just idiots. Way too many drugs!!

That's right Jenn777. Many of us here are BOTH good parents AND are not in denial. That is why our kids aren't featured in this article! Your kids sound super! Thanks for your hard work.

Place the kids and parents in the same cell for 6 months.

Yeah, jacks66, reducing the assistance of someone already recieving it is a GREAT way to reduce crime! Critical thinking, you're doing it wrong.

I'm all for my tax dollars going to pay for more prisons. I agree, put them in jail and see what happens. And this is supposed to be our next generation?? Scary.

Yeh, it is impossible to get a college degree while doing drugs... Wait, don't all you conservatards accuse anyone with a BS or BA of being a potsmokingpinkoliberalcommunistsatanist?

Rodney--a dog license kinda comes in after the fact. Truly, here it is called "registration." No, you don't have to have a license to own a pet--your rhetoric fails.

Didn't all of the Repub heroes just swear to oppose ANY tax increase? Good luck with getting dough for jails!

what if a teen center experience kept a "good" kid from turning bad? boys clubs, girls clubs and teen centers work in urban areas where parenting is even worse. why not try it? sometimes "prevention is the best medicine".

hornetfan said: "Just yet another reason pot should stay as an illegal drug."

Hornetfan, if these kids were smoking pot, they would prob be at home with the munchies... If you read the article, it states,” There were indications some where using narcotics,” The last time I checked pot was not a narcotic. Further, if police are too busy chasing down pot smokers, they are unavailable to respond other crime. Pot should be decriminalized, turning the focus on dangerous criminals.

they all musta had shaved heads and goatees!!!!!

Yeah, that is why I know of a couple of teenagers that are pot smokers that now are running from the law for more serious crimes. You potheads need to get a grip and come to the realization that what you are doing is wrong AND illegal.

Teen Centers don't accomplish anything. There's more to do in Redding than there ever has been in the past. Punks like this aren't doing it because there's nothing else to do.

I was lucky enough to experience all forms of life from the big city, to the medium size town like Redding, and then a rural area where I went through what you described. I learned to drive when I was 11. I've done work from dusk to dawn in the summer. Staking hay. I've never had a harder job since. :p Once you've had to do real work it all seems easier.

I also want to say this...

There are people that are born bad. Its a fact of life. Although you can deter some people from being that way you can't all of them. Some are just plan anti-social. They need to be blotted out from society.

HornetFan:

And I know several MDs that smoke pot and aren't running from the law. And I know people on both sides of the law that don't smoke pot. What is your point?

HI crosemeyer, your not still mad are you?

Mad at? You? If I ever was, I don't remember.

Not all of us take these blogs super surrious like. Even those of us with the balls to use our names. ;)

(not calling you out, just being a smartass)

It was a long time ago I didn't think you would still be mad. So why dont you join the forums?

The Marines are looking for a few good men. I remember the "4 in the Corps of 10 in pen penalty" in the 60's. The Marines would straighten them out. Especially the 12 year olds!!!

Man, I barely have time to comment on here anymore. More responsibility at work--no more goofing off there! Not that I ever did.... And nowadays I can't get by on only 3 or 4 hours of sleep--being injured badly takes a toll, yo!

Gnarley: Yes, what we need is more criminalls in the military. All of the recent stories about drug-running, weapon theft, and rape have convinced me of that!

Well good luck crosemeyer.

hornetfan: "You potheads need to get a grip and come to the realization that what you are doing is wrong AND illegal."

Marijuana for personal use, with a perscription is not illegal... therefore, it is not wrong. I would also like to clarify that I am not refering to teenagers. I am talking about responsible adults.

Hornetfan said: "...that is why I know of a couple of teenagers that are pot smokers that now are running from the law for more serious crimes."

Hf, Your argument is absent of fact and information. Do you really think that the pot smoking teens you know are criminals solely because of their pot smoking? Are their "more serious crimes" selling/growing pot, or rape/murder? Is your opinion based on anything other than your emotion regarding the issue, or do you just enjoy name-calling?

Teen centers are not open at 3am in the morning. Where were the parents of 14 to 17 year olds at 3am. "Pot is legal with a prescription", so is Vicodon and many other controlled drugs. Parents, whether they are potheads or druggies or hard working with two jobs, they need to pay attention to the commercials showing the new drug dealers are the medicine cabinet in their own home.

Marijuana is illegal at a FEDERAL level. While certain States may recognize it's "medicinal" purposes, the US Government does not. And you can't deny that Marijuana is a "Gate-Way" drug. It's led a lot of people down a dark road of drug and alcohol addiction.

Good Stuff.........

Problem....

It AINT Workin'........ We need to find something that does work 2008 style, not Duke-Magein Style that is still on the books. Needs to be "Fitting." Peers will go- no doubt dude- Im NOT gonna do that!!! Parents are jacked up already so we cant hold them in tow....Its a "Quick fix" but they will eventually slip again. Nip it in the bud- you are you and you will account. Thats the way it needs to be. No hand outs for this- Society needs to say 'Loser- you messed up so NO jello pudding for you- hard bread only!!!'

Happy to hear these outlaws were not turned over to their parents this time, but were sent right where they all belong.

Put them to work on the chain gang...if they want to spend their summer working their butts off in the sun, in Juvenile hall, so be it.

To Police chief Leonard Moty and crew...Great job
and thank you. This has got to stop.

public caning as in Singapore would go to great lengths in making these "kids" think twice about the consequences involved. Clearly the idea of parental control is long past. Now it is all about peer pressure. Shame, even if that means public spanking, and developing a sense of right from wrong again is needed.

HOLES! Make them dig lots of holes! Post holes! LEAVES! Let them rake and pick up leaves! Have them clean up poison oak from parks and see how they fare. LOTS AND LOTS of really hard work needs to be done. Give them a list. Get to it. Don't allow them to drive until they are 21. That should stop a lot of vandalism.

What about thoes single moms that have to work a 8 to 5 job to provide for their kids. When they get home from a tired day at work cook, do homework, clean, laundry and play with their children. Are you saying it is that moms fault. Sure she does what she can when she is at home but because of circumstances being what they are it is impossible for her to. Unfortunatly she has to rely on School and after school care to watch her children until she gets off work. No it is not always the parents fault. Peer pressure plays a big roll. What are you now going to start pointing the finger at other kids parents. It is true some kids are just bad kids.

new2redding said: "...you can't deny that Marijuana is a "Gate-Way" drug. It's led a lot of people down a dark road of drug and alcohol addiction."

So you are saying that marijuana is responsible for a lot of people becoming alcohol and drug addicts. I would say far more people who become alcohol and drug addicts do so with the intent to self medicate. With this in mind, who is to say that they would not have become addicted to drugs and or alcohol anyway? By this standard, M&M's could be considered a "gate-way-drug" to an individual with an addictive personality.

There was a teen center in Redding on Bechelli and I worked in one of the places right by that place and the people in charge of the place never knew what those kids where doing. Most of them where behind place smoking pot and others where busy tearing up the businesses around it. Most of the teens in this town are rude, lazy, self centered punks. Parents are to afraid of punishing because they are afraid of getting in trouble with the law. But then if your child goes and breaks the law over and over and over again then something needs to be done. Don't be scared to punish, there is a difference between punishment and abuse and I am sure there are parents out there that know the difference.

in response to bpete1002. if you cant take firm control of your kids because you have to many other responsibilities. then these type of people should think about not having any kids.their is no excuse for any parent who cant control their kids period. violating busineeses, other kids , and other people. get a grip.if you dont, someone else will if they try to hurt the wrong person.the only peer pressure your gonna see if your kids get out of control, will be your peers of a judge or jury. see how you like that !

How dare you...I am a great mom I love my kids with all my heart and I do distill morals and values into my children. My kids are not out of control but on occasion they do act out. I can not be home with them as much as I would like to and I know they strive for my attention and I give it to them as much as I possibly can. Because I lost my husband a year ago and I am trying to support my children on my own, you say I should not have kids. You have no idea. Get over yourself you are not perfect and I bet 1. you dont have kids or 2. you are not the perfect parent either, go put your 2 cents in somewhere else...

bpete1002 said: "No it is not always the parents fault."

There is a reason that parents are held accountable for their children's actions. If one child hurts another, for example, liability would be the responsibility of the parents. Single mothers are not exempt! Because single, working moms cannot be available 24/7, doesn't release them from liability, and doesn't mean that peer pressure has more to do with incorrigibility than parenting. I was a single mom myself, so I do know how hard it is, believe me! However, we all make choices... instead of new cars and vacations; I choose lower paying jobs with less responsibility and hours. Further, there are other options to being unavailable for 40 plus hours a week. How about online education, you can increase your income by $500-$1000 per month with financial aid. Study at night after kids have gone to bed or while they are at school. Or, work at night while the children are asleep. Yes, you are going to be tired. But, what is more important? Single moms have hard choices to make. BTW, I think single moms are some of the most heroic people. Their jobs are very hard, but often they still try to make it through each day focusing on character and values. Your children should have the benefit of your company as much as possible. I am so sorry about your husband. God bless your family.

Thank you for your understanding. I do infact do some online classes that I can do at night while the kids are asleep. I do inted to give my children them most I can. Not just materialistic things. I do take 100% responsibility for my childrens actions. I have 2 little girls 5 and 6 years old and I do teach them morals, values and manners. I do what I can but unfortuantly I can not work at nights when they are asleep since they are so young and should not be left home alone, and at this point I can not afford a babysitter or I will just be putting my self in debt. Trust me I have thought long and hard about all of my options and I am doing what I can. I just think that some of the comments on here are rude and thoughtless, people do need to understand EVERY circumstance is different. But thank you for your condolences that is appriciated :)

Blaming this stuff completely on the parents is soooo ridiculous!!! I have GREAT parents, but my older brother did every drug you can think of (STARTING with pot, New2Redding), was alcoholic, had anger issues, was bi-polar, was arrested, got a DUI, stole, lied, cheated, and did just about any bad thing that you can think of, just short of killing someone.

My parents did EVERYTHING they could to straighten him out. They wanted to send him to a boys ranch, but couldn't because the ranches are too expensive. Parents make mistakes, thats for sure, but you can't blame them for everything. If my brother was still alive, he would tell you that his choices had NOTHING to do with my parents.

I wish he had turned out different, because God knows my parents tried. Just like some kids turn out great when they have horrible parents, other kids turn out horribly with great parents. It pisses me off when parents get the whole blame for something their kids do. It's just not fair for the people who really try.

Very very well said :)